Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752956Ab3IJX61 (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:58:27 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:45892 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750879Ab3IJX6Z (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:58:25 -0400 Message-ID: <522FB20F.4020609@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:58:07 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mimi Zohar CC: David Lang , Kees Cook , "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" , Matthew Garrett , Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" , "jmorris@namei.org" , "linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" , Elena Reshetova Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown References: <1378767723.17982.27.camel@x230.lan> <1378774394.17982.36.camel@x230.lan> <1378781715.17982.42.camel@x230.lan> <1378785208.17982.54.camel@x230.lan> <20130910172318.GB21530@khazad-dum.debian.net> <1378837571.17615.0.camel@x230.lan> <522F6519.4030004@zytor.com> <20130910185149.GC5559@kroah.com> <522F768F.1000101@zytor.com> <1378856601.2257.208.camel@dhcp-9-2-203-236.watson.ibm.com> <522FAFC4.5090503@zytor.com> <1378857327.2257.214.camel@dhcp-9-2-203-236.watson.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <1378857327.2257.214.camel@dhcp-9-2-203-236.watson.ibm.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 932 Lines: 27 On 09/10/2013 04:55 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote: >> >> What would the deliverables be from the hardware vendor and what tools >> would you expect them to need on their end? > > The package installer needs to not only install files, but file metadata > as well. Elena Reshetova (Intel) has already added rpm hooks to write > security xattrs. The next step, yet to be done, is to include and write > the signatures as part of the rpm install process. > That's a total non-option. There needs to be something that can be done even on a Windows box by a largely untrained release engineer if we're going to have a prayer of getting this supported. So, there is your answer why not. -hpa -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/