Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754224Ab3IKNpv (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:45:51 -0400 Received: from Mycroft.westnet.com ([216.187.52.7]:61540 "EHLO mycroft.westnet.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752793Ab3IKNpt (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:45:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21040.29473.988021.228432@quad.stoffel.home> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:41:53 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Linus Torvalds , John Stoffel , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Guenter Roeck , Dave Airlie , Bruce Fields Subject: Re: RIP - dead harddisk.. In-Reply-To: <522FDD32.9040603@linux.intel.com> References: <21039.55685.839356.195087@quad.stoffel.home> <522FDD32.9040603@linux.intel.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1902 Lines: 44 >>>>> "H" == H Peter Anvin writes: H> On 09/10/2013 08:00 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM, John Stoffel wrote: >>> Linus> The timing absolutely sucks, but it looks like the SSD in my Linus> main workstation just died on me. >>> >>> What model, if you care to share? I figure you'r a perfect storm of >>> SSD beating with all your compiles and git pulls, etc. >> >> So I don't want to necessarily blame the harddisk, since it's just ten >> days since I upgraded the rest of my machine, after it worked years in >> the previous one. That just makes me go "hmm". As far as I know, all >> the fans etc were working fine, but.. >> >>> And may I suggest that you get TWO of them next time and mirror them, >>> for just this case? The SysAdmin in my shouting out here... >> >> I long ago gave up on doing backups. I have actively moved to a model >> where I use replacable machines instead. I've got the stuff I care >> about generally on a couple of different machines, and then keys etc >> backed up on a separate encrypted USB key. >> >> So it's inconvenient. Mainly from a timing standpoint. But nothing more. >> H> I won't get any stationary machines without mirrored drives anymore. H> Storage just isn't reliable enough. And I won't trust a single USB thumb drive to hold my most important stuff. And how do you hold onto family pictures and such? It's amazing how much crap can accumulate, but also how important it can be to have good backups that are remote. If the house burns down, don't matter how many machines the stuff is spread across if it's not local. John -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/