Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751747Ab3IRNfi (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:35:38 -0400 Received: from mail-bk0-f48.google.com ([209.85.214.48]:56925 "EHLO mail-bk0-f48.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751042Ab3IRNfh (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:35:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:35:25 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: David Ahern Cc: Denys Vlasenko , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Tom Zanussi , Steven Rostedt , Ingo Molnar , Jiri Olsa , Masami Hiramatsu , Oleg Nesterov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Denys Vlasenko Subject: Re: [RFC] Full syscall argument decode in "perf trace" Message-ID: <20130918133525.GB8141@gmail.com> References: <20130917190606.GB3918@infradead.org> <52398FF1.5020502@redhat.com> <5239A0BE.7050203@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5239A0BE.7050203@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 944 Lines: 26 * David Ahern wrote: > On 9/18/13 5:35 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > >Therefore my question should be restated as: > > > >Would perf developers accept the "syscall pausing" feature, > >or it won't be accepted? > > I have been using perf-trace a lot lately specifically because it is > effectively a 'passive' observer of the task (e.g., time-sensitive tasks > can be traced with perf but not with strace). Yes, this is not just an important but a primary design goal for all perf utilities: if the tracing buffers used are large enough then it should be a nearly zero-overhead observer that preserves all previous patterns of behavior as much as possible. Thanks, Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/