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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
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To: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
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Russ Allbery wrote:
> Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>If you keep a copy locally, sure.  But the upstream sources, i.e. what's
>>important, you lose rights to even though you may have contributed
>>substantial amounts of code.  IOW if binutils goes off in a direction
>>you don't like, for example the FSF changes the license from GPL to
>>Microsoft EULA, you don't have any say in the matter whatsoever.  You're
>>left with a code fork based on the last GPL sources and/or the patches
>>you've kept locally.
> 
> 
> Jeff, have you read an FSF copyright assignment?

yes, many times thank you.


> It doesn't just say "I give you all rights to my work so that you can do
> whatever you want with it."

Indeed.  It continues on, to make legally-questionable assertions about 
source code availability and royalties, that one IP lawyer I spoke with 
informally thinks is complete bunk.  I would like to see "The Foundation 
promises..." to hold up in any court.

	Jeff




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