Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:12:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:12:17 -0400 Received: from optout.cdt.org ([206.112.85.61]:50638 "EHLO mail.cdt.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:12:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:18:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Bitkeeper outrage, old and new Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Cc: Rob Landley , Xavier Bestel , Robert Love , Ben Collins , Jeff Garzik , Linux Kernel Mailing List To: Rik van Riel From: Daniel Berlin In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <54B6BFEE-E508-11D6-AF88-000393575BCC@dberlin.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1425 Lines: 39 On Monday, October 21, 2002, at 10:33 AM, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rob Landley wrote: >> On Sunday 20 October 2002 17:53, Rik van Riel wrote: > >>> Germany (and France, judging from your words) have laws that >>> guarantee that the creator of a work keeps copyright on the >>> work. At least, part of the copyright cannot be signed over >>> to other people or organisations. > >> 3) The creator of a work doesn't always get the copyright, at least in >> the US. > > Please see above. It's possible the FSF copyright assignment > just can't be legal in some countries. > Possibly, but as a contract, it doesn't matter (unless these other countries don't do promissory estoppel. AFAIK from a google search, they do). Even if the contract is invalid, if the FSF relies on the promise of rights in the contract to its detriment (IE are sued by the author for infringement or something), the promise will be enforced (to avoid injustice). For an plain english description of what promissory estoppel is, see http://facstaff.gallaudet.edu/marshall.wick/bus447/ promissory_estoppel.html It's a bit more than that, but that's the general idea. --Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/