Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754997Ab3IZINa (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 04:13:30 -0400 Received: from ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.132]:42326 "EHLO ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750985Ab3IZIN1 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 04:13:27 -0400 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Subject: Re: [PATCH] add exFAT driver Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Anton Altaparmakov In-Reply-To: <524363AF.1040502@ahsoftware.de> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:54:02 +0100 Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , STAGING SUBSYSTEM , Matthew Garrett , Benjamin Valentin , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: References: <20130830124622.5f81b7d4@rechenknecht2k7> <20130830154205.GA1411@kroah.com> <20130925183632.08a0d073@rechenknecht2k7> <20130925172704.GB5258@kroah.com> <20130925183235.GA9659@srcf.ucam.org> <20130925184539.GA4208@kroah.com> <52433978.9050302@ahsoftware.de> <20130925202151.GA6149@kroah.com> <57387214-F138-4471-996E-3FB1ED28346C@cam.ac.uk> <20130925221006.GB32312@kroah.com> <524363AF.1040502@ahsoftware.de> To: Alexander Holler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2108 Lines: 48 Hi, On 25 Sep 2013, at 23:29, Alexander Holler wrote: > Am 26.09.2013 00:10, schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: >> Please stick to technical discussions about the code on the kernel >> mailing lists. Legal discussions can be left up to the lawyers, of >> which we are not. > > Hmm, but I would like to know if someone has to fear getting owned by > Microsoft if he would use that driver. > > Giving the rumours about Linux companies having to pay Microsoft and > giving the fact that all of those licencees seem to don't have to speak > about what Microsoft claims patents for and for what they have to pay, I > obviously think adding that driver to Linux and thus making exFAT more > general accepted is a very bad idea. > > Of course, I'm not a lawyer too, but as a responsible Linux developer, I > should at least be able to warn other parities when they approach me and > want to use exFAT. Doing such without the maybe necessary license might > drive small companies into the ground because most of them are unable to > even think about having the money needed to talk with Microsoft lawyers > in front of a court. Exactly. That is all I was trying to do. Warn people/companies not to use the driver because they may get sued for using it. As the below Microsoft exFAT licensing page says at the bottom: Please note that open source or other publicly available implementations of exFAT do not include an IP license from Microsoft. For licensing information, please contact IPlicreq@microsoft.com. Above is from bottom of: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/IPLicensing/Programs/exFATFileSystem.aspx Best regards, Anton -- Anton Altaparmakov (replace at with @) Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge J.J. Thomson Avenue, Cambridge, CB3 0RB, UK -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/