Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753615Ab3JHCIX (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:08:23 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:59781 "EHLO relay3-d.mail.gandi.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753446Ab3JHCIW (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:08:22 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 50.43.39.152 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:08:14 -0700 From: Josh Triplett To: Joe Perches Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linux-foundation.org, Andy Whitcroft , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] checkpatch: Make the 80-character limit a --strict check only Message-ID: <20131008020814.GD6392@leaf> References: <20131007191835.GA28737@jtriplet-mobl1> <1381174106.2081.207.camel@joe-AO722> <20131007193433.GF13643@jtriplet-mobl1> <1381174700.2081.209.camel@joe-AO722> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1381174700.2081.209.camel@joe-AO722> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2125 Lines: 48 On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:38:20PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 12:34 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:28:26PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > > > On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 12:18 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > > The 80-character limit is not a hard-and-fast rule, nor should it be > > > > applied blindly by people running checkpatch and fixing its warnings. > > > > Sometimes it's better to violate the 80-character "limit" in the name of > > > > readability, and when it isn't, it's often better to refactor into a > > > > function or otherwise restructure the code rather than just finding > > > > increasingly awkward places to break lines. > > > > > > > > Thus, change checkpatch's LONG_LINE warning to a --strict CHK instead. > > > > Anyone wanting to use checkpatch to check for this can easily enough > > > > enable --strict or turn on LONG_LINE explicitly, but it shouldn't be > > > > part of the default warnings. > > > > > > I don't agree with this. > > > > > > CodingStyle says: > > > ---------------------- > > > The limit on the length of lines is 80 columns and this is a strongly > > > preferred limit. > > > ---------------------- > > > > Which is the subject of much controversy and extensive discussion, and > > the consensus on the list (including by many maintainers) frequently > > differs from that. > > Been there, had that discussion. > https://lkml.org/lkml/2009/12/18/3 I see many positive responses in that thread, from Linus and others, and very little negativity (mostly quibbles about implementation, not about the overall proposal). What was the problem? In particular: > I'll happily remove the checkpatch.pl limit entirely, and ask people to > try to use common sense, though. Between that and the positive responses in this thread, I'd love to see your proposed patch revived. - Josh Triplett -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/