Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754285Ab3JHDNV (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:13:21 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:22300 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752579Ab3JHDNS (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <1381201980.6330.4.camel@ul30vt.home> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] iommu: add api to get iommu_domain of a device From: Alex Williamson To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777 Cc: "joro@8bytes.org" , "benh@kernel.crashing.org" , "galak@kernel.crashing.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" , "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" , "agraf@suse.de" , Wood Scott-B07421 , "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org" Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:13:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: <6A3DF150A5B70D4F9B66A25E3F7C888D0719385B@039-SN2MPN1-011.039d.mgd.msft.net> References: <1379575763-2091-1-git-send-email-Bharat.Bhushan@freescale.com> <1379575763-2091-3-git-send-email-Bharat.Bhushan@freescale.com> <1380127533.3030.319.camel@ul30vt.home> <6A3DF150A5B70D4F9B66A25E3F7C888D0718FD1C@039-SN2MPN1-011.039d.mgd.msft.net> <1380901507.2673.204.camel@ul30vt.home> <6A3DF150A5B70D4F9B66A25E3F7C888D07190F35@039-SN2MPN1-011.039d.mgd.msft.net> <1380906772.25705.19.camel@ul30vt.home> <6A3DF150A5B70D4F9B66A25E3F7C888D07191143@039-SN2MPN1-011.039d.mgd.msft.net> <1380910322.25705.56.camel@ul30vt.home> <6A3DF150A5B70D4F9B66A25E3F7C888D0719385B@039-SN2MPN1-011.039d.mgd.msft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 10282 Lines: 210 On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 05:46 +0000, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:42 PM > > To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777 > > Cc: joro@8bytes.org; benh@kernel.crashing.org; galak@kernel.crashing.org; linux- > > kernel@vger.kernel.org; linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org; linux- > > pci@vger.kernel.org; agraf@suse.de; Wood Scott-B07421; iommu@lists.linux- > > foundation.org > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] iommu: add api to get iommu_domain of a device > > > > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 17:23 +0000, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:43 PM > > > > To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777 > > > > Cc: joro@8bytes.org; benh@kernel.crashing.org; > > > > galak@kernel.crashing.org; linux- kernel@vger.kernel.org; > > > > linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org; linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; > > > > agraf@suse.de; Wood Scott-B07421; iommu@lists.linux- foundation.org > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] iommu: add api to get iommu_domain of a > > > > device > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 16:47 +0000, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:15 PM > > > > > > To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777 > > > > > > Cc: joro@8bytes.org; benh@kernel.crashing.org; > > > > > > galak@kernel.crashing.org; linux- kernel@vger.kernel.org; > > > > > > linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org; linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; > > > > > > agraf@suse.de; Wood Scott-B07421; iommu@lists.linux- > > > > > > foundation.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] iommu: add api to get iommu_domain of a > > > > > > device > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 09:54 +0000, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org > > > > > > > > [mailto:linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Alex Williamson > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:16 PM > > > > > > > > To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777 > > > > > > > > Cc: joro@8bytes.org; benh@kernel.crashing.org; > > > > > > > > galak@kernel.crashing.org; linux- kernel@vger.kernel.org; > > > > > > > > linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org; linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; > > > > > > > > agraf@suse.de; Wood Scott-B07421; iommu@lists.linux- > > > > > > > > foundation.org; Bhushan Bharat-R65777 > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] iommu: add api to get iommu_domain > > > > > > > > of a device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 12:59 +0530, Bharat Bhushan wrote: > > > > > > > > > This api return the iommu domain to which the device is attached. > > > > > > > > > The iommu_domain is required for making API calls related to > > iommu. > > > > > > > > > Follow up patches which use this API to know iommu maping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Bharat Bhushan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > drivers/iommu/iommu.c | 10 ++++++++++ > > > > > > > > > include/linux/iommu.h | 7 +++++++ > > > > > > > > > 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c > > > > > > > > > index > > > > > > > > > fbe9ca7..6ac5f50 100644 > > > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c > > > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c > > > > > > > > > @@ -696,6 +696,16 @@ void iommu_detach_device(struct > > > > > > > > > iommu_domain *domain, struct device *dev) } > > > > > > > > > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(iommu_detach_device); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +struct iommu_domain *iommu_get_dev_domain(struct device *dev) { > > > > > > > > > + struct iommu_ops *ops = dev->bus->iommu_ops; > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > + if (unlikely(ops == NULL || ops->get_dev_iommu_domain == > > NULL)) > > > > > > > > > + return NULL; > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > + return ops->get_dev_iommu_domain(dev); } > > > > > > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(iommu_get_dev_domain); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What prevents this from racing iommu_domain_free()? There's > > > > > > > > no references acquired, so there's no reason for the caller > > > > > > > > to assume the > > > > > > pointer is valid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for late query, somehow this email went into a folder > > > > > > > and escaped; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to be sure, there is not lock at generic "struct > > > > > > > iommu_domain", but IP > > > > > > specific structure (link FSL domain) linked in > > > > > > iommu_domain->priv have a lock, so we need to ensure this race > > > > > > in FSL iommu code (say drivers/iommu/fsl_pamu_domain.c), right? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it's not sufficient to make sure that your use of the > > > > > > interface is race free. The interface itself needs to be > > > > > > designed so that it's difficult to use incorrectly. > > > > > > > > > > So we can define iommu_get_dev_domain()/iommu_put_dev_domain(); > > > > > iommu_get_dev_domain() will return domain with the lock held, and > > > > > iommu_put_dev_domain() will release the lock? And > > > > > iommu_get_dev_domain() must always be followed by > > > > > iommu_get_dev_domain(). > > > > > > > > What lock? get/put are generally used for reference counting, not > > > > locking in the kernel. > > > > > > > > > > That's not the case here. This is a backdoor to get the iommu > > > > > > domain from the iommu driver regardless of who is using it or how. > > > > > > The iommu domain is created and managed by vfio, so shouldn't we > > > > > > be looking at how to do this through vfio? > > > > > > > > > > Let me first describe what we are doing here: > > > > > During initialization:- > > > > > - vfio talks to MSI system to know the MSI-page and size > > > > > - vfio then interacts with iommu to map the MSI-page in iommu > > > > > (IOVA is decided by userspace and physical address is the > > > > > MSI-page) > > > > > - So the IOVA subwindow mapping is created in iommu and yes VFIO > > > > > know about > > > > this mapping. > > > > > > > > > > Now do SET_IRQ(MSI/MSIX) ioctl: > > > > > - calls pci_enable_msix()/pci_enable_msi_block(): which is > > > > > supposed to set > > > > MSI address/data in device. > > > > > - So in current implementation (this patchset) msi-subsystem gets > > > > > the IOVA > > > > from iommu via this defined interface. > > > > > - Are you saying that rather than getting this from iommu, we > > > > > should get this > > > > from vfio? What difference does this make? > > > > > > > > Yes, you just said above that vfio knows the msi to iova mapping, so > > > > why go outside of vfio to find it later? The difference is one case > > > > you can have a proper reference to data structures to make sure the > > > > pointer you get back actually has meaning at the time you're using > > > > it vs the code here where you're defining an API that returns a > > > > meaningless value > > > > > > With FSL-PAMU we will always get consistant data from iommu or vfio-data > > structure. > > > > Great, but you're trying to add a generic API to the IOMMU subsystem that's > > difficult to use correctly. The fact that you use it correctly does not justify > > the API. > > > > > > because you can't check or > > > > enforce that an arbitrary caller is using it correctly. > > > > > > I am not sure what is arbitrary caller? pdev is known to vfio, so vfio > > > will only make pci_enable_msix()/pci_enable_msi_block() for this pdev. > > > If anyother code makes then it is some other unexpectedly thing > > > happening in system, no? > > > > What's proposed here is a generic IOMMU API. Anybody can call this. > > What if the host SCSI driver decides to go get the iommu domain for it's device > > (or any other device)? Does that fit your usage model? > > > > > > It's not maintainable. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > I do not have any issue with this as well, can you also describe the > > > type of API you are envisioning; I can think of defining some function > > > in vfio.c/vfio_iommu*.c, make them global and declare then in > > > include/Linux/vfio.h And include in caller file > > > (arch/powerpc/kernel/msi.c) > > > > Do you really want module dependencies between vfio and your core kernel MSI > > setup? Look at the vfio external user interface that we've already defined. > > That allows other components of the kernel to get a proper reference to a vfio > > group. From there you can work out how to get what you want. Another > > alternative is that vfio could register an MSI to IOVA mapping with architecture > > code when the mapping is created. The MSI setup path could then do a lookup in > > architecture code for the mapping. You could even store the MSI to IOVA mapping > > in VFIO and create an interface where SET_IRQ passes that mapping into setup > > code. > > Ok, What I want is to get IOVA associated with a physical address > (physical address of MSI-bank). > And currently I do not see a way to know IOVA of a physical address > and doing all this domain get and then search through all of > iommu-windows of that domain. > > What if we add an iommu-API which can return the IOVA mapping of a > physical address. Current use case is setting up MSI's for aperture > type of IOMMU also getting a phys_to_iova() mapping is independent of > VFIO, your thought? A physical address can be mapped to multiple IOVAs, so the interface seems flawed by design. It also has the same problem as above, it's a backdoor that can be called asynchronous to the owner of the domain, so what reason is there to believe the result? It just replaces an iommu_domain pointer with an IOVA. VFIO knows this mapping, so why are we trying to go behind its back and ask the IOMMU? Thanks, Alex -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/