Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753951Ab3JJCE0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:04:26 -0400 Received: from order.stressinduktion.org ([87.106.68.36]:51849 "EHLO order.stressinduktion.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751318Ab3JJCEY (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:04:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:04:22 +0200 From: Hannes Frederic Sowa To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Eric Dumazet , Josh Triplett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu, "David S. Miller" , Alexey Kuznetsov , James Morris , Hideaki YOSHIFUJI , Patrick McHardy , netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 07/13] ipv6/ip6_tunnel: Apply rcu_access_pointer() to avoid sparse false positive Message-ID: <20131010020422.GB24368@order.stressinduktion.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Paul E. McKenney" , Eric Dumazet , Josh Triplett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu, "David S. Miller" , Alexey Kuznetsov , James Morris , Hideaki YOSHIFUJI , Patrick McHardy , netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <1381354949.4971.20.camel@edumazet-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20131009215747.GA5790@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1381356624.4971.26.camel@edumazet-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20131009223652.GC5790@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1381359077.4971.37.camel@edumazet-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20131009225617.GH11709@jtriplet-mobl1> <1381360675.4971.45.camel@edumazet-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20131009234040.GB14055@jtriplet-mobl1> <1381363960.4971.55.camel@edumazet-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20131010002833.GJ5790@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131010002833.GJ5790@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1679 Lines: 45 On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:28:33PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:12:40PM -0700, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 16:40 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > > > that. Constructs like list_del_rcu are much clearer, and not > > > open-coded. Open-coding synchronization code is almost always a Bad > > > Idea. > > > > OK, so you think there is synchronization code. > > > > I will shut up then, no need to waste time. > > As you said earlier, we should at least get rid of the memory barrier > as long as we are changing the code. Interesting thread! Sorry to chime in and asking a question: Why do we need an ACCESS_ONCE here if rcu_assign_pointer can do without one? In other words I wonder why rcu_assign_pointer is not a static inline function to use the sequence point in argument evaluation (if I remember correctly this also holds for inline functions) to not allow something like this: E.g. we want to publish which lock to take first to prevent an ABBA problem (extreme example): rcu_assign_pointer(lockptr, min(lptr1, lptr2)); Couldn't a compiler spill the lockptr memory location as a temporary buffer if the compiler is under register pressure? (yes, this seems unlikely if we flushed out most registers to memory because of the barrier, but still... ;) ) This seems to be also the case if we publish a multi-dereferencing pointers e.g. ptr->ptr->ptr. Thanks, Hannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/