Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:53:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:53:15 -0400 Received: from vladimir.pegasys.ws ([64.220.160.58]:18693 "HELO vladimir.pegasys.ws") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:53:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:59:16 -0700 From: jw schultz To: Linux kernel mailing list Subject: Re: over&out (Re: feature request - why not make netif_rx() a pointer?) Message-ID: <20021023225916.GA6395@pegasys.ws> Mail-Followup-To: jw schultz , Linux kernel mailing list References: <20021023003959.GA23155@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <004c01c27a99$927b8a30$800a140a@SLNW2K> <3DB6AC40.20007@nortelnetworks.com> <008b01c27ab0$760be900$800a140a@SLNW2K> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008b01c27ab0$760be900$800a140a@SLNW2K> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2341 Lines: 56 On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 12:23:03PM -0400, Slavcho Nikolov wrote: > Chris Friesen wrote > | I don't think you understand the nature of the GPL and linux development. > > What a presumptuous opening statement! It is a statement of opinion based on proximate evidence and was phrased as such. Only a statement of fact not in evidence could have been presumptuous. You could persuade us that he is wrong by showing us your applicable understanding. > | The kernel developers do not have any obligation to anything other than > | technical excellence. You're getting a highly optimized operating > | system *at no financial cost*. In return, the community requires that > | certain types of modifications be made publicly available. > > Yes, many companies from time to time feed smaller or larger contributions > back into the community. > But they don't usually release *all* their modifications because they just > might be irrelevant to everyone but a small niche of enterprise users. That is obviously untrue or a complete misunderstanding. Even the tiniest, most specialized patch is more relevant than a spelling error in a comment or some crook from Nigeria asking for access to our bank accounts. If the patches are really irrelevant then it won't matter to you if they are publicly available. Maybe they won't seem so irrelevant to someone else. There would be little objection to their posting these irrelevant modifications here. The GPL only requires that they be made available. Stick them somewhere on your web site with an obscure link pointing to them. Irrelevance is no reason not to share patches. Shamefully bad code i can see not sharing, but such bad code shouldn't be in a commercial offering. The only reason not to share commercially viable patches is the same reason the Linux kernel is GPL. Pay the price (free code) or shop somewhere else. With GPL that is _your_ choice. -- ________________________________________________________________ J.W. Schultz Pegasystems Technologies email address: jw@pegasys.ws Remember Cernan and Schmitt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/