Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754831Ab3JYTnM (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:43:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com ([209.85.212.182]:35134 "EHLO mail-wi0-f182.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753020Ab3JYTnK convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:43:10 -0400 From: Diego Calleja To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: david@lang.hm, neilb@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: Disabling in-memory write cache for x86-64 in Linux II Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 21:40:13 +0200 Message-ID: <1999200.Zdacx0scmY@diego-arch> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.2 (Linux/3.12.0-rc5; KDE/4.11.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <154617470.12445.1382725583671.JavaMail.mail@webmail11> References: <160824051.3072.1382685914055.JavaMail.mail@webmail07> <154617470.12445.1382725583671.JavaMail.mail@webmail11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1937 Lines: 34 El Viernes, 25 de octubre de 2013 18:26:23 Artem S. Tashkinov escribi?: > Oct 25, 2013 05:26:45 PM, david wrote: > >actually, I think the problem is more the impact of the huge write later > >on. > Exactly. And not being able to use applications which show you IO > performance like Midnight Commander. You might prefer to use "cp -a" but I > cannot imagine my life without being able to see the progress of a copying > operation. With the current dirty cache there's no way to understand how > you storage media actually behaves. This is a problem I also have been suffering for a long time. It's not so much how much and when the systems syncs dirty data, but how unreponsive the desktop becomes when it happens (usually, with rsync + large files). Most programs become completely unreponsive, specially if they have a large memory consumption (ie. the browser). I need to pause rsync and wait until the systems writes out all dirty data if I want to do simple things like scrolling or do any action that uses I/O, otherwise I need to wait minutes. I have 16 GB of RAM and excluding the browser (which usually uses about half of a GB) and KDE itself, there are no memory hogs, so it seem like it's something that shouldn't happen. I can understand that I/O operations are laggy when there is some other intensive I/O ongoing, but right now the system becomes completely unreponsive. If I am unlucky and Konsole also becomes unreponsive, I need to switch to a VT (which also takes time). I haven't reported it before in part because I didn't know how to do it, "my browser stalls" is not a very useful description and I didn't know what kind of data I'm supposed to report. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/