Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:14:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:14:28 -0500 Received: from msp-65-29-16-62.mn.rr.com ([65.29.16.62]:33937 "EHLO localhost.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:14:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:20:26 -0600 From: Shawn To: "Matt D. Robinson" Cc: Linus Torvalds , Rusty Russell , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkcd-general@lists.sourceforge.net, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: What's left over. Message-ID: <20021031162026.A12486@q.mn.rr.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from yakker@aparity.com on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 09:18:00AM -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1389 Lines: 36 On 10/31, Matt D. Robinson said something like: > On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote: > |>On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Matt D. Robinson wrote: > |>That's fine. And since they are paid to support it, they can apply the > |>patches. > > We want to see this in the kernel, frankly, because it's a pain > in the butt keeping up with your kernel revisions and everything > else that goes in that changes. And I'm sure SuSE, UnitedLinux and > (hopefully) Red Hat don't want to spend their time having to roll > this stuff in each and every time you roll a new kernel. I share some of your sentiment, but honestly, think about it. Linus has to "keep up" with all the changees coming into his inbox as well, and the more features, the more breakage that can happen when Linus accepts a patch. Really, Linus wants to push some of his maintanance overhead to distros, who get paid to do it, but also to provide sexy bullet point items for users, so they buy "Linux" stuff. You try to find a better balance. -- Shawn Leas core@enodev.com I installed a skylight in my apartment... The people who live above me are furious! -- Stephen Wright - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/