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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
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Hi!

> > > ext2/ext3 ACLs and Extended Attributes
> > 
> > I don't know why people still want ACL's. There were noises about them for 
> > samba, but I'v enot heard anything since. Are vendors using this?
> 
> Because People Are Stupid(tm).  Because it's cheaper to put "ACL support: yes"
> in the feature list under "Security" than to make sure than userland can cope
> with anything more complex than  "Me Og.  Og see directory.  Directory Og's.
> Nobody change it".  C.f. snake oil, P.T.Barnum and esp. LSM users

Okay... Have ~/bin/phonebook and I'd like it to be rw- to me, r-- to
jarka and mj, and --- to everyone else. How do I do that without ACLs?
Adding a group is root-only operation.

This seems like a pretty common situation to me, and current solutions
are not nice. [I guess ~/bin/ with --x and
~/bin/my-secret-password-only-jarka-and-mj-knows/phonebook would solve
the problem, but...!]
								Pavel
-- 
When do you have heart between your knees?
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