Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 07:28:06 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] x86/kaslr for v3.14
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* Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> wrote:
> > Am 27.01.2014 18:05, schrieb Kees Cook:
> >> I would argue that decoding a non-panic oops on a running system is
> >> entirely possible as-is, since the offset can be found from
> >> /proc/kallsyms as root. It was the dead system that needed the offset
> >> exported: via text in the panic, or via an ELF note in a core.
> >
> > The problem is that you have to pickup information from two sources.
> > As a kernel developer users/customers often show you a backtrace (oops or panic)
> > and want you do find the problem.
> > They barley manage it copy&paste the topmost full trace from dmesg or /var/log/messages.
> > If I have to ask them a bit later to tell me the offset from /proc/kallsyms or something else
> > I'm lost. Mostly because they have already rebooted the box...
> 
> As long as I can turn it off, I'd be happy. :)
> /proc/sys/kernel/kaslr_in_oops or something?

Yeah, as long as it decodes by default.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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