Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:15:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:15:34 -0500 Received: from h-66-166-148-18.SNVACAID.covad.net ([66.166.148.18]:8672 "EHLO tpn-fw1.processing.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:15:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Shane R. Stixrud" X-X-Sender: shane@tpn-fw1.processing.net To: Patrick Finnegan cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: What's left over. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2486 Lines: 62 On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > I'm sorry it _is_ a public service. Once tens of people started > contributing to it, it became one. This is like saying that the > Washington Monument belongs to the peole that maintain it, any building > belongs to the repair crews and janitors. I'm not saying that Linus is > necessarily a janitor, but when you consider how much of the Linux kernel > that he didn't write, you may relize that it's not just his kernel. It > also belongs to every single person that has written even a single > line of code in it. > The logic you seem to be missing is, the Washington Monument is a physical object. Linus's source tree is a collection of "copied" parts from other peoples source trees. You obviously see his source copy as special, more so then say my copy. This is true _ONLY_ because Linus's copy commands more respect then yours or mine. If you think about it, the respect Linus's copy has is _PURELY_ the result of his past _choices_ over how he maintains it. In effect you are saying: Patrick: "Everyone trusts your source tree, I think LKCD is SUPER DUPER important and should get the exposure and trust that being in your tree commands." Linus: "I think LKCD is a bad idea, until I am convinced otherwise I will not merge it." Patrick: "You are wrong, LKCD should be in your copy of the kernel source. It is your Job Linus, to add things to _your_ copy which others find important, what you think is secondary." You cannot have it both ways, either Linus's tree is a dumping grounds for all ideas (both good and bad) or it is a place for good ideas (good defined by Linus) where people who trust Linus's judgment can work from. In truth you can have it both ways. Take Linus's existing copy, add the features you think are important. If your choices prove to be superior. you can expect that people (over time) will begin to trust/respect your copy more then Linus's. -- Shane R. Stixrud "Nothing would please me more than being able to shane@stixrud.org hire ten programmers and deluge the hobby market with good software." -- Bill Gates 1976 We are still waiting .... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/