Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:18:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:18:55 -0500 Received: from pc1-cwma1-5-cust42.swa.cable.ntl.com ([80.5.120.42]:24716 "EHLO irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:18:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Filesystem Capabilities in 2.6? From: Alan Cox To: Werner Almesberger Cc: Linus Torvalds , Rik van Riel , "Theodore Ts'o" , Dax Kelson , Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , davej@suse.de In-Reply-To: <20021102234344.I2599@almesberger.net> References: <1036286840.18289.2.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20021102234344.I2599@almesberger.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 03 Nov 2002 12:46:27 +0000 Message-Id: <1036327587.29642.12.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1050 Lines: 22 On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 02:43, Werner Almesberger wrote: > > What you are suggesting is the equivalent of marking documents 'secret' > > by putting them in a specific drawer and hoping nobody ever misfiles it. > > Everyone instead writes "secret" on the document - guess why > > This happens if you have a design that is based on taking away > privileges/rights/capabilities/power/whatever. If the "naked" > object has no special powers, misfiling it does no damage at all. That isnt actually true. When you misfile it you mistakenly give it powers. An untrusted document stuck in the secret drawer becomes seen to have much higher value. It might for example lead the military to believe a project is secret, make a decision on that basis and get everyone shot because the opponents knew about it. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/