Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:28:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:28:20 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:56069 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:28:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:33:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Davidsen To: Alan Cox cc: "Matt D. Robinson" , Steven King , Linus Torvalds , Joel Becker , Chris Friesen , Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , lkcd-general@lists.sourceforge.net, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [lkcd-general] Re: What's left over. In-Reply-To: <1036288145.18461.13.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1326 Lines: 29 On 3 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > I would hope IBM have more intelligence than to attempt to destroy the > product by trying to force all sorts of junk into it. The Linux world > has a process for filterng crap, it isnt IBM applying force. That path > leads to Star Office 5.2, Netscape 4 and other similar scales of horror > code that become unmaintainably bad. If you define "unmaintainably bad" as "having features you don't need" then I agree. But since dump to disk is in almost every other commercial UNIX, maybe someone would question why it's good for others but not for Linux. I can agree on stuff the non-hacker wouldn't use, but that is exactly who uses the crash dump in AIX, the person who wants to send a compressed dump and money to IBM and get back a fix. Netdump assumes external resources and a functional secure network (is the dump encrypted and I missed it?) which home users surely don't have, and remote servers oftem lack as well. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/