Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:30:01 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:30:01 -0500 Received: from hq.fsmlabs.com ([209.155.42.197]:50328 "EHLO hq.fsmlabs.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:29:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:26:57 -0700 From: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com To: Bill Davidsen Cc: Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , Chris Friesen , "Matt D. Robinson" , Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , lkcd-general@lists.sourceforge.net, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: What's left over. Message-ID: <20021103072657.C30041@hq.fsmlabs.com> References: <1036157204.12693.13.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from davidsen@tmr.com on Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:48:30AM -0500 Organization: FSM Labs Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1932 Lines: 38 On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:48:30AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > On 1 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > > > On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 06:34, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > > From the standpoint of just the driver that's true. However, the remote > > > machine and all the network bits between them are a string of single > > > points of failure. Isn't it good that both disk and network can be > > > supported. > > > > My concerns are solely with things like the correctness of the disk > > dumper. Its obviously a good way to do a lot more damage if it isnt done > > carefully. Quite clearly your dump system wants to support multiple dump > > targets so you can dump to pci battery backed ram, down the parallel > > port to an analysing box etc > > Quite clearly SCO, Sun, and IBM have been doing this for years without > offering dozens of options. I don't need it to sing and dance, I just need > a way to put the dump where I can find it. I'm not going to put another > box in at the end of a serial or parallel port, I don't have NVram, I do > have lopts of disk, and so does almost everyone else. I have remote > systems in wiring closets all over the country (all four time zones). They > are at the end of open net connections, unreliable and untrusted. I don't > want to bet that I have a working VPN, or that I can safely send all that > data without it being read by someone other than me. > > The AIX support has a group just to beat on dumps customers send. What > more evidence is needed that people can and do use the capability. > > I had hoped that someone would do this for Linux, I never dreamed that You paid someone for this for AIX. So the solution is obvious for Linux. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/