Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:07:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:07:16 -0500 Received: from twilight.ucw.cz ([195.39.74.230]:64462 "EHLO twilight.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:06:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:13:08 +0100 From: Vojtech Pavlik To: Vojtech Pavlik , Jeff Garzik , Jos Hulzink , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Petition against kernel configuration options madness... Message-ID: <20021103211308.B8636@ucw.cz> References: <200211031809.45079.josh@stack.nl> <3DC56270.8040305@pobox.com> <20021103200704.A8377@ucw.cz> <20021103193734.GC2516@pasky.ji.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021103193734.GC2516@pasky.ji.cz>; from pasky@ucw.cz on Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:37:34PM +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2271 Lines: 47 On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:37:34PM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote: > Dear diary, on Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:07:05PM CET, I got a letter, > where Vojtech Pavlik told me, that... > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:52:48PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > Jos Hulzink wrote: > > > > > > >It took me about an hour to find out why my keyboard didn't work in 2.5.45. > > > >Well... after all it seemed that I need to enable 4 ! options inside the > > > >input configuration, just to get my default, nothing special PS/2 keyboard up > > > >and running. Oh, and I didn't even have my not so fancy boring default PS/2 > > > >mouse configured then. Guys, being able to configure everything is nice, but > > > >with the 2.5 kernel, things are definitely getting out of control IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is potentially becoming a FAQ... I ran into this too, as did > > > several people in the office. People who compile custom kernels seem to > > > run into this when they first jump into 2.5.x. AT Keyboard support is > > > definitely buried :/ > > > > > > Unfortunately I don't have any concrete suggestions for Vojtech (input > > > subsystem maintainer), just a request that it becomes easier and more > > > obvious how to configure the keyboard and mouse that is found on > 90% > > > of all Linux users computers [IMO]... > > > > Too bad you don't have any suggestions. I completely agree this should > > be simplified, while I wouldn't be happy to lose the possibility of not > > compiling AT keyboard support in. > > Well, why can't it be enabled by default? Other options are as well, and it's > IMHO sane to enable keyboard and mice support by default. It should clear up > the initial confusion as well. All the needed options ARE enabled by default. (check arch/i386/defconfig) > I think that those are absolute minimum and if anyone will want to have any of > these explicitly off, he's more likely to know where to turn it off, rather > than vice versa. -- Vojtech Pavlik SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/