Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:57:17 +0000
From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Laszlo Papp <lpapp@kde.org>
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Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: (max6650) Rename the device ids to
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> >> Time to revisit this decision....
> >>
> >> So, based on the fact that children device names usually contain
> >> dashes, I do not understand why hwmon would be any special in this
> >> regard. It is possible that the hwmon developers have not faced much
> >> MFD situation before, and so, this was not considered to be handled
> >> like in other subsystems.
> >>
> >> I am proposing to change this "rule"...  Any objection?
> >
> > I'm giving up here, sorry. There's no point in me writing any more on
> > the topic as you are not listening to me. I do not have the impression
> > you are doing any effort to understand what I'm saying. Plus you keep
> > focusing on things that do not matter and problems for which a solution
> > has already been provided.
> 
> Does it mean the people cannot come up with ideas if they think
> something may be better than some provided way? Surely, software
> evolves over time and people are sometimes right, and sometimes wrong
> right?
> 
> I can assure you that I do listen, please assume good faith with ideas
> thrown in. If you think it is that bad an idea, you could have
> explained why so, so that I and others can also understand it who do
> not yet, right?

In the small amount of time you've been working in the kernel I've
seen 3-4 Maintainers completely give up on you and 2-3 driven close to
the end of their tether (myself included).

Ranting and demanding will not work well for you here. Please, for
your own sake, learn some diplomacy and be courteous to others on the
list. If people are replying it means they're trying to help. Jumping
down their throats is not conducive to your success and will not
result in a win.  

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
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