Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753508AbaBQVqw (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:46:52 -0500 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:34209 "EHLO relay5-d.mail.gandi.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750939AbaBQVqu (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:46:50 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 50.43.14.201 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:46:06 -0800 From: Josh Triplett To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, sbw@mit.edu Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 5/6] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Need barriers() for some control dependencies Message-ID: <20140217214606.GC7941@thin> References: <20140217212625.GA4083@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1392672413-5114-1-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1392672413-5114-5-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1392672413-5114-5-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 01:26:52PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > From: "Paul E. McKenney" > > Current compilers can "speculate" stores in the case where both legs > of the "if" statement start with identical stores. Because the stores > are identical, the compiler knows that the store will unconditionally > execute regardless of the "if" condition, and so the compiler is within > its rights to hoist the store to precede the condition. Such hoisting > destroys the control-dependency ordering. This ordering can be restored > by placing a barrier() at the beginning of each leg of the "if" statement. > This commit adds this requirement to the control-dependencies section. > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney This is starting to become a rather unreasonable level of fighting the compiler. ("Threads cannot be implemented as a library" indeed.) This doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to require users to do. Is there really no other way to cope with this particular bit of "help" from the compiler? > Documentation/memory-barriers.txt | 26 +++++++++++++++++++------- > 1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt > index f2668c19807e..adfaca831a90 100644 > --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt > +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt > @@ -608,26 +608,30 @@ as follows: > b = p; /* BUG: Compiler can reorder!!! */ > do_something(); > > -The solution is again ACCESS_ONCE(), which preserves the ordering between > -the load from variable 'a' and the store to variable 'b': > +The solution is again ACCESS_ONCE() and barrier(), which preserves the > +ordering between the load from variable 'a' and the store to variable 'b': > > q = ACCESS_ONCE(a); > if (q) { > + barrier(); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = p; > do_something(); > } else { > + barrier(); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = p; > do_something_else(); > } > > -You could also use barrier() to prevent the compiler from moving > -the stores to variable 'b', but barrier() would not prevent the > -compiler from proving to itself that a==1 always, so ACCESS_ONCE() > -is also needed. > +The initial ACCESS_ONCE() is required to prevent the compiler from > +proving the value of 'a', and the pair of barrier() invocations are > +required to prevent the compiler from pulling the two identical stores > +to 'b' out from the legs of the "if" statement. > > It is important to note that control dependencies absolutely require a > a conditional. For example, the following "optimized" version of > -the above example breaks ordering: > +the above example breaks ordering, which is why the barrier() invocations > +are absolutely required if you have identical stores in both legs of > +the "if" statement: > > q = ACCESS_ONCE(a); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = p; /* BUG: No ordering vs. load from a!!! */ > @@ -643,9 +647,11 @@ It is of course legal for the prior load to be part of the conditional, > for example, as follows: > > if (ACCESS_ONCE(a) > 0) { > + barrier(); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = q / 2; > do_something(); > } else { > + barrier(); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = q / 3; > do_something_else(); > } > @@ -659,9 +665,11 @@ the needed conditional. For example: > > q = ACCESS_ONCE(a); > if (q % MAX) { > + barrier(); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = p; > do_something(); > } else { > + barrier(); > ACCESS_ONCE(b) = p; > do_something_else(); > } > @@ -723,6 +731,10 @@ In summary: > use smb_rmb(), smp_wmb(), or, in the case of prior stores and > later loads, smp_mb(). > > + (*) If both legs of the "if" statement begin with identical stores > + to the same variable, a barrier() statement is required at the > + beginning of each leg of the "if" statement. > + > (*) Control dependencies require at least one run-time conditional > between the prior load and the subsequent store, and this > conditional must involve the prior load. If the compiler > -- > 1.8.1.5 > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/