Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:05:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:05:32 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:62728 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:05:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:09:17 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Davidsen To: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com cc: Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , Chris Friesen , "Matt D. Robinson" , Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , lkcd-general@lists.sourceforge.net, lkcd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: What's left over. In-Reply-To: <20021103072657.C30041@hq.fsmlabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1677 Lines: 34 On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:48:30AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Quite clearly SCO, Sun, and IBM have been doing this for years without > > offering dozens of options. I don't need it to sing and dance, I just need > > a way to put the dump where I can find it. I'm not going to put another > > box in at the end of a serial or parallel port, I don't have NVram, I do > > have lopts of disk, and so does almost everyone else. I have remote > > systems in wiring closets all over the country (all four time zones). They > > are at the end of open net connections, unreliable and untrusted. I don't > > want to bet that I have a working VPN, or that I can safely send all that > > data without it being read by someone other than me. > > > > The AIX support has a group just to beat on dumps customers send. What > > more evidence is needed that people can and do use the capability. > You paid someone for this for AIX. So the solution is obvious for Linux. No, it's included in AIX, SCO and Solaris. And analysis is included in support contracts. With all the stuff added to Linux to keep up with both M$ and commercial UNIX, I can't imagine why anyone would be against this. At least anyone who wanted Linux to compete in the commercial server market. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/