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From: yodaiken@fsmlabs.com
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
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Subject: Re: What's left over.
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On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:09:17PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 yodaiken@fsmlabs.com wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:48:30AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > Quite clearly SCO, Sun, and IBM have been doing this for years without
> > > offering dozens of options. I don't need it to sing and dance, I just need
> > > a way to put the dump where I can find it. I'm not going to put another
> > > box in at the end of a serial or parallel port, I don't have NVram, I do
> > > have lopts of disk, and so does almost everyone else. I have remote
> > > systems in wiring closets all over the country (all four time zones). They
> > > are at the end of open net connections, unreliable and untrusted. I don't
> > > want to bet that I have a working VPN, or that I can safely send all that
> > > data without it being read by someone other than me.
> > > 
> > > The AIX support has a group just to beat on dumps customers send. What
> > > more evidence is needed that people can and do use the capability.
> 
> > You paid someone for this for AIX. So the solution is obvious for Linux.
> 
> No, it's included in AIX, SCO and Solaris. And analysis is included in

None of those are free.

> support contracts. With all the stuff added to Linux to keep up with both
> M$ and commercial UNIX, I can't imagine why anyone would be against this.
> At least anyone who wanted Linux to compete in the commercial server
> market.

So buy your Linux from a vendor who supports it. 



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