Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752784AbaBTVvb (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:51:31 -0500 Received: from mail-bn1blp0190.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([207.46.163.190]:40608 "EHLO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752497AbaBTVv3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:51:29 -0500 From: Matthew Garrett To: "rja@sgi.com" CC: "lenb@kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "minyard@acm.org" , "rjw@rjwysocki.net" , "linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] Change ACPI IPMI support to "default y" Thread-Topic: [PATCH V2] Change ACPI IPMI support to "default y" Thread-Index: AQHPLMZ9xGM3QUTlOk+rIS3zgvGkBZq+l00AgAAHJxWAABM0ZYAAAJiA Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:51:26 +0000 Message-ID: <1392933085.20109.12.camel@x230> References: <1392740909-2079-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com> <20140220201458.GA7099@sgi.com> <1392927381.20109.0.camel@x230> <20140220204028.GJ17949@sgi.com> <1392929163.20109.5.camel@x230> <20140220214913.GR17949@sgi.com> In-Reply-To: <20140220214913.GR17949@sgi.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [2001:470:1f07:1371:6267:20ff:fec3:2318] x-forefront-prvs: 01283822F8 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10009001)(6009001)(189002)(199002)(51704005)(24454002)(377424004)(19580405001)(81342001)(76796001)(76786001)(19580395003)(83322001)(94946001)(74366001)(77096001)(95416001)(81686001)(2656002)(74706001)(80976001)(69226001)(53806001)(85306002)(93516002)(87266001)(86362001)(74502001)(87936001)(94316002)(74876001)(81542001)(74662001)(63696002)(93136001)(33646001)(81816001)(31966008)(33716001)(83072002)(46102001)(80022001)(65816001)(47976001)(85852003)(92566001)(4396001)(92726001)(54316002)(47446002)(77982001)(56776001)(59766001)(54356001)(51856001)(76482001)(47736001)(50986001)(49866001)(90146001)(56816005)(79102001)(95666003)(3826001)(217873001);DIR:OUT;SFP:1101;SCL:1;SRVR:BN1PR05MB423;H:BN1PR05MB423.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;CLIP:2001:470:1f07:1371:6267:20ff:fec3:2318;FPR:BDEAE575.813F4FD5.33C883BA.84EE9120.20172;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <0A13574A910AC84D8CB76C29197CC1F1@namprd05.prod.outlook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nebula.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by mail.home.local id s1KLpc2C021981 On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 15:49 -0600, Russ Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:46:04PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > You appear to be saying "SGI ship hardware that doesn't work. We don't > > know why it doesn't work and we're not interested in fixing it, so we'd > > prefer the default kernel configuration to be broken". That doesn't seem > > like an especially compelling argument. > > You appear to not understand the mess this causes. We have hit > this on 3rd party boards, not just SGI built hardware (much > of which is industry standard components). It causes problems > both for flakey hardware _and_ functioning hardware. Bug numbers? -- Matthew Garrett ????{.n?+???????+%?????ݶ??w??{.n?+????{??G?????{ay?ʇڙ?,j??f???h?????????z_??(?階?ݢj"???m??????G????????????&???~???iO???z??v?^?m???? ????????I?