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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:11:35 +0200
From: Christian Stroetmann <stroetmann@ontolinux.com>
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To: Christian Stroetmann <stroetmann@ontolinux.com>
CC: Boaz Harrosh <openosd@gmail.com>,
        Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Linux Patch Review Group
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Am 02.04.2014 00:20, schrieb Christian Stroetmann:
> Am 02.04.2014 00:02, schrieb Richard Weinberger:
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Christian Stroetmann
>> <stroetmann@ontolinux.com>  wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01.April.2014 17:55, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:40:16AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/01/2014 11:16 AM, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/01/2014 05:41 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During last week's Collab summit, Jon Corbet suggested we use 
>>>>>>> the power
>>>>>>> of social media to improve the Linux kernel patch review process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We thought this was a great idea, and have been experimenting 
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> Facebook group dedicated to patch discussion and review.  The 
>>>>>>> new group
>>>>>>> provides a dramatically improved development workflow, including:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          * One click patch or comment approval
>>>>>>>          * Comments enhanced with pictures and video
>>>>>>>          * Who has seen your patches and comments
>>>>>>>          * Searchable index of past submissions
>>>>>>>          * A strong community without anonymous flames
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To help capture the group discussion in the final patch submission,
>>>>>>> we suggest adding a Liked-by: tag to commits that have been through
>>>>>>> group review.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To use the new group, please join:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/linuxpatches/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once you've joined, you can post patches in the group, or email 
>>>>>>> patches
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> linuxpatches@groups.facebook.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>> NACK! I do not have facebook and I do not like patches to be 
>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>> behind my back. On the mailing list we don't even want HTML with 
>>>>>> bold
>>>>>> lettered words so no thanks facebook adds nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please obliterate this bad idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And I do not have Facebook shares or care to)
>>>>> It's always hard to move on to new technologies. But at some point we
>>>>> have
>>>>> to recognize that the internet has developed a rich culture that the
>>>>> kernel
>>>>> community isn't taking full advantage of.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly don't expect everyone to convert right away, but 
>>>>> there's a
>>>>> whole
>>>>> world out there beyond port 25.
>>>> Agreed
>>>>
>>>> Acked-by: Felipe Balbi<balbi@ti.com>
>>>>
>>>> We might even be able to "recruit" a much more diverse group of
>>>> reviewers who are undiscovered as of now ;-)
>>>>
>>> Sorry, but definitely: Nack!!!
>> We (the majority of the Linux maintainers) voted already on fb.com to
>> make it out primary developing eco system
>> and will abandon LKML starting with April 1st.
>>
>
> Please, allow me to ask some questions:
> 1. It was proposed "During last week's Collab summit" and now it is 
> decided already?
> 2. Do you have a link to the discussion on LKML or somewhere else?
> 3. Did you voted on fb.com or on LKML during?
> 4. Is there a link to the vote or any related informations?
> 5. You mean with "April 1st" since today respectively yesterday LKML 
> will be stopped to function?
> 6. And with "eco system" you mean that a majority of the Linux 
> maintainers want to use fb.com for the development of Linux?
>
> Honestly, I do not find this funny somehow, but a little curious.
>
>
>
> Best regards
> C. Stroetmann
>

If it was an April fool hoax, then I have to applaud Chris Mason and the 
others a lot, get the post address for the beer, thank everybody for 
telling me that there is a world besides the monitor, and beg your 
pardon for my seriousness.
Now, it seems to be that I have to learn how to get my fb.com account 
until April 2015. Hopefully, I can find a helping hand for this modern 
technology.

Nevertheless, my suggestion to set such a platfrom up with an open 
source framework was really meant in this way.


Good luck
Christian Stroetmann
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