Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754198AbaDEXYS (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:24:18 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:50522 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753565AbaDEXYL (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:24:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 19:23:42 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: John Stoffel , Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , Joerg Roedel , Jiri Kosina , Andrew Morton , Mateusz Guzik , Steven Rostedt , LKML , Thomas Gleixner , "H. Peter Anvin" , Borislav Petkov , Ingo Molnar , Mel Gorman , Kay Sievers Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline Message-ID: <20140405232342.GA6805@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Greg Kroah-Hartman , John Stoffel , Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , Joerg Roedel , Jiri Kosina , Andrew Morton , Mateusz Guzik , Steven Rostedt , LKML , Thomas Gleixner , "H. Peter Anvin" , Borislav Petkov , Ingo Molnar , Mel Gorman , Kay Sievers References: <20140403104308.GP13491@8bytes.org> <20140403170541.GA19010@thunk.org> <533EF832.1030902@mit.edu> <21311.8533.138063.744673@quad.stoffel.home> <20140404231749.GA20437@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140404231749.GA20437@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:17:49PM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > I think you mean "dmesg -T", and unfortunately it seems Debian 6.0.9 > > (or older) doesn ship a new enough linux-util since I've only got > > 2.17.2-9 install. > > No, 'dmesg -H' is the right thing, you just need a modern version of > util-linux :) I've been poking the Debian folks. Hopefully they'll be able to ship a newer util-linux soon. Unfortunately, the previous package maintainer had something like a thousand local patches, and it's not clear which patches got pushed upstream, which have been resolved some other way, which are now moot, and which might result in an actual regression if Debian were to go to the latest version of util-linux. Most Debian packages are better maintained; hopefully this issue will be resolved soon. I believe the right way at this point is to declare "patch bankruptcy", ala "inbox bankruptcy", and then fix up the bugs as users report them. And I think the new maintainer believes that too; he just has to convince a few other people of that. Anyway, that's largely out of scope for LKML, except that many us kernel developers who use Debian have been rather handicapped by this. (I keep a set of binaries of the latest util-linux when I need modern functionality.) - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/