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Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 11:20:28 -0500
From: Nathan Fontenot <nfont@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] memory driver: make phys_index/end_phys_index reflect
 the start/end section number
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On 04/08/2014 02:47 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 04/08/2014 11:23 AM, Nathan Fontenot wrote:
>> On 04/08/2014 11:13 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 04/08/2014 01:27 AM, Li Zhong wrote:
>>>> If Dave and others don't have further objections, it seems this small
>>>> userspace incompatibility could be accepted by most of us, and I don't
>>>> need to make a version 2. 
>>>
>>> Let me ask another question then.  What are the units of
>>> phys_index/end_phys_index?  How do we expose those units to userspace?
>>>
>>
>> The documentation for these files just states that the files contain
>> the first and last section id of memory in the memory block for
>> phys_index and end_phys_index respectively.
>>
>> I'm not sure the values have ever been units of anything, at least not
>> that I remember.
> 
> <sigh>
> 
> There are two units.  SECTION_SIZE, which is completely internal to the
> kernel, and block_size_bytes which used to be the same as SECTION_SIZE,
> but is not now.  Which one of those two is phys_index/end_phys_index in,
> and if it is in terms of SECTION_SIZE like this patch proposes, how do
> we tell userspace how large SECTION_SIZE is?
> 
> block_size_bytes is supposed to tell you how large the sections are.  In
> the case where we lumped a bunch of sections together, we also bumped up
> block_size_bytes.  That's why we currently divide the *ACTUAL* section
> number in phys_index/end_phys_index by block_size_bytes.
> 
> That document really needs to be updated to stop referring to sections
> (at least in the descriptions of the user interface).  We can not change
> the units of phys_index/end_phys_index without also changing
> block_size_bytes.
> 

Re-reading the documentation. You're correct, it needs help.

-Nathan

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