Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422685AbaDJUtb (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:49:31 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172]:63549 "EHLO mail-ie0-f172.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759164AbaDJUt2 (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:49:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1395256011-2423-1-git-send-email-dh.herrmann@gmail.com> <20140320153250.GC20618@thunk.org> <20140320163806.GA10440@thunk.org> <5346ED93.9040500@amacapital.net> <20140410203246.GB31614@thunk.org> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:49:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] File Sealing & memfd_create() From: David Herrmann To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , linux-kernel , Kay Sievers , Daniel Mack , Lennart Poettering , John Stultz , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" , linux-fsdevel , linux-mm , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , Ryan Lortie , "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > It occurs to me that, before going nuts with these kinds of flags, it > may pay to just try to fix the /proc/self/fd issue for real -- we > could just make open("/proc/self/fd/3", O_RDWR) fail if fd 3 is > read-only. That may be enough for the file sealing thing. For the sealing API, none of this is needed. As long as the inode is owned by the uid who creates the memfd, you can pass it around and no-one besides root and you can open /proc/self/fd/$fd (assuming chmod 700). If you share the fd with someone with the same uid as you, you're screwed anyway. We don't protect users against themselves (I mean, they can ptrace you, or kill()..). Therefore, I'm not really convinced that we want this for memfd. At least no-one has provided a _proper_ use-case for this so far. Thanks David -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/