Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:07:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:07:05 -0500 Received: from pc175.host14.starman.ee ([62.65.206.175]:260 "EHLO amd-laptop") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:07:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:13:29 +0200 From: Priit Laes To: Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: "Bryan O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: GA-7VRXP is a bad motherboard [was Re: PDC20276 Linux driver] Message-ID: <20021112211329.GB32036@amd-laptop.mshome.net> References: <1037117166.8313.61.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20021112165309.GB12789@anakin.wychk.org> <1037133511.7047.12.camel@plokta.s8.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1037133511.7047.12.camel@plokta.s8.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.19-gentoo-r9 (i686) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2576 Lines: 49 Bryan O'Sullivan (bos@serpentine.com) wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 08:53, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > > Board is a Gigabyte GA-7VRXP which has an on-board Promise 20276. > > The GA-7VRXP is a known bad motherboard. It has a bad electrical > interface to the AGP slot, so if you're using an AGP graphics card > without falling back to PCI access, you are pretty much guaranteed > system hangs or crashes after some time, depending on load. > > This is an issue I confirmed with AMD several (six?) months ago. I > don't know of any workarounds that maintain decent graphics performance, > and last I checked, Gigabyte had not acknowledged the problem. > > Either drop your video card back to not using AGP, or buy a replacement > motherboard. Well actually Gigabyte systems are aware of this bug... According to: www.thetechboard.com (original page has disappeared): A good number of 1.0 versions of this motherboard barely worked at all with GeForce4 cards. Stability was unheard of." The 1.1 version of this board would sometimes work and sometimes not work. Odds are better of getting a functioning board, but if you have this version of the board and your GeForce4 card does NOT work, increasing the VCore voltage by +7.5 in the BIOS can help. The side effect of this can lead to higher temperatures causing a whole new batch of problems. Better cooling solutions (like a Volcano7 or Coolermaster Heatpipe AT MINIMUM) can pacify the heat issues, but I feel that long term usage at this high of a voltage will cause inevitable failure. After calling Gigabyte (you would think that they should call me knowing that they sent me a few hundred motherboards with a "known issue") because I was growing very tired of all of the tech calls I was receiving about the board's stability issues with the GeForce4 card, I was told that the boards needed to be reworked. Older boards were being "updated" by adding a 4.7uF capacitor between the VR at Q36 and a spot on the board where a surface mounted capacitor could go (but isn't installed) at C139. A new revision (2.0) with a resistor (labeled R833) added is already in production and being shipped. I've(www.thetechboard.com) already tested the 2.0 version of the board with a PowerColor brand Ti 4200 128MB DDR and things do seem to be considerably better. " Hope this helps... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/