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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:59:56PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
> (tangent warning!)
> Another long term idea I would eventually like to realize is the removal 
> of device ids from the C source code.  I don't care where they go -- 
> drivers/net/pci_ids [per directory ids?], drivers/net/3c59x.meta, 
> whereever.  Anywhere but the C source code.  It's quite silly to require 
> a driver rebuild just to add a single PCI id, and further, embedding 
> metadata in C source is rarely a good idea in the long term.  [reference 
> some of Linus's counter-arguments when it was mentioned that Donald 
> Becker's method of including Config.{in,help} data in C source might be 
> useful]

True, this would be nice, but how would the driver know to bind to a new
device, if it isn't rebuilt, and doesn't know about the new id that was
just added?  In the current scheme of driver matching to devices, I
don't see how this could be done.

Not to say I would not want to see this changed to allow this to happen,
I'm very tired of telling USB Palm users to get a new kernel version
just because a single device id was added which their new device has.

thanks,

greg k-h
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