Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:25:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:25:40 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:47882 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:25:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:32:31 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Alan Cox cc: Christoph Hellwig , , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: module mess in -CURRENT In-Reply-To: <1037240840.14393.4.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1053 Lines: 28 On 14 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > > That makes driver debugging almost impossible. It also makes building a > test kernel set for a lot of boxes impractical. The completely broken > unload stuff is going to be a real pig, PCMCIA only works modular and > doesn't work now the unloads are all broken. Yeah, I forgot about the old 16-bit pcmcia crud. Ugh. At least 32-bit cardbus works fine. > The biggest need though is documentation so people can actually fix all > the drivers for this stuff. I think Al convinced Rusty that most drivers don't need to worry and that Rusty was a bit over-eager (ie sound, much of char, all of block and fs should all be handled by upper layers without the races) I think Rusty has most of the pieces, but he's apparently flying around the world right now ;) Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/