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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: 2.5.47bk2 + current modutils == broken hotplug 
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In message <3DD3589C.5000002@pacbell.net> you write:
> Hotplugging may well change more in 2.5, but I'd rather have it do
> so on a more flexible schedule than "quick, before 2.5.48 ships"!  :)

Hey, I want to get humpty dumpty back together ASAP, too.  But I'm in
Spain without an x86 box (my test box is available though a modem to
IBM's intranet, two ssh's away), so it's a little difficult for me,
too.  And I'm still catching up on mail.

> Is it true that the infrastructure newly in place can easily be
> made to provide (from user-space) the policy of "driver remains
> loaded until the devices it's bound to are all unplugged"?

That should always be true, unless I'm missing something.  What kind
of devices?

> That'd be a user-friendly policy, but we'd still need to handle
> today's developer-oriented "sysadmin can always remove module"
> policy.  (Me, I'd run with the "user friendly" policy except
> when hacking a driver.  Then I'd debug/rmmod/update/modprobe.)

rmmod -f is about as unfriendly as you can get, really 8)

Cheers,
Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
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