Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752190AbaFBRm4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2014 13:42:56 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com ([209.85.216.49]:39800 "EHLO mail-qa0-f49.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750941AbaFBRmx (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jun 2014 13:42:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 13:42:50 -0400 From: Tejun Heo To: Jens Axboe Cc: Paolo Valente , Li Zefan , Fabio Checconi , Arianna Avanzini , Paolo Valente , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Message-ID: <20140602174250.GC8912@htj.dyndns.org> References: <20140528221929.GG1419@htj.dyndns.org> <1401354343-5527-1-git-send-email-paolo.valente@unimore.it> <20140530160712.GG24871@htj.dyndns.org> <538926F6.7080409@kernel.dk> <20140531051635.GA19925@mtj.dyndns.org> <538C8A47.1050502@kernel.dk> <20140602172454.GA8912@htj.dyndns.org> <538CB515.3090700@kernel.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <538CB515.3090700@kernel.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello, Jens. On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 11:32:05AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote: > For things like blkcg, I agree, it should be able to be common code and > reusable. But there's a need for scheduling beyond that, for people that > don't use control groups (ie most...). And it'd be hard to retrofit cfq > into blk-mq, without rewriting it. I don't believe we need anything this > fancy for blk-mq, hopefully. At least having simple deadline scheduling > would be Good Enough for the foreseeable future. Heh, looks like we're miscommunicating. I don't think anything with the level of complexity of cfq is realistic for high-iops devices. It has already become a liability for SATA ssds after all. My suggestion is that as hierarchical scheduling tends to be logical extension of flat scheduling, it probably would make sense to implement both scheduling logics in the same framework as in the cpu scheduler or (to a lesser extent) cfq. So, a new blk-mq scheduler which can work in hierarchical mode if blkcg is in active use. One part I was wondering about is whether we'd need to continue the modular multiple implementation mechanism. For rotating disks, for various reasons including some historical ones, we ended up with multiple ioscheds and somewhat uglily layered blkcg implementations. Given that the expected characteristics of blk-mq devices are more consistent, it could be reasonable to stick with single iops and/or bandwidth scheme. Thanks. -- tejun -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/