Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:12:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:12:28 -0500 Received: from holomorphy.com ([66.224.33.161]:48083 "EHLO holomorphy") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:12:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:15:34 -0800 From: William Lee Irwin III To: Patrick Finnegan Cc: Jeff Garzik , Dan Kegel , john slee , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Why can't Johnny compile? Message-ID: <20021116061534.GE23425@holomorphy.com> Mail-Followup-To: William Lee Irwin III , Patrick Finnegan , Jeff Garzik , Dan Kegel , john slee , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <3DD5DC77.2010406@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: The Domain of Holomorphy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1406 Lines: 28 On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> If people want to get rivafb or an ancient ISA net driver building >> again... patches welcome. But I don't think calls for the kernel to >> compile 100 percent of the drivers is realistic or even reasonable. >> Some of the APIs, particularly SCSI, are undergoing API stabilization. [snip] On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 01:04:35AM -0500, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > Wouldn't it then seem reasonable to remove things from the kernel that > have been broken for a long time, and no one seems to care enough to fix? > I know of at least one driver (IOmega Buz v4l) that seems to have fallen > into disrepair possibly since before 2.4.0, and as far as I know has not > been repaired since then. A lot of driver writers probably aren't going to even start updating until the stable release is released. IIRC there are many vendors etc. who focus exclusively on stable kernel releases, and who will let their code (e.g. drivers) bitrot the entire way through the development cycle. And there is plenty of code that is being updated now for the first time since 2.0.x, and some arches that haven't merged since before 2.4.0 Bill - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/