Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:57:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:57:34 -0500 Received: from waste.org ([209.173.204.2]:4993 "EHLO waste.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:57:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:04:29 -0600 From: Oliver Xymoron To: Linus Torvalds Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: lan based kgdb Message-ID: <20021116190429.GI19061@waste.org> References: <20021116182454.GH19061@waste.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 29 On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:33:57AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Oliver Xymoron wrote: > > > > LAN latencies should be low enough that waiting on an ACK for each > > packet will do just fine for error correction. If someone wants to do > > remote debugging, they can ssh into a debugging machine on the same LAN. > > I agree in theory on a technical level, yet at the same time it's clearly > advantageous _not_ to wait, since it would allow you to just universally > enable the LAN as the console on all your machines when you maintain them, > and then not have that LAN console be a maintenance problem. Definitely agreed on the usefulness of LAN console. Being able to just run netcat for all the boxes in your datacenter is a huge win. Cuts your cable count by a third to a half and eliminates a bunch of term servers and KVMs. Other folks have pointed out that the GDB stub protocol includes checksumming and retries up at the 'application' layer so we don't actually have to worry about it. -- "Love the dolphins," she advised him. "Write by W.A.S.T.E.." - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/