Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:23:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:23:17 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:3007 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:23:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:30:08 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Alan Cox , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: lan based kgdb Message-ID: <20021116193008.C25741@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <1037490849.24843.11.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 07:19:10PM -0800 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1146 Lines: 24 On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 07:19:10PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On 16 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > > And in the real world you end up back with TCP. Been there, done that > > with network debugger tools before. > > .. and we have another "been there, done that" that says UDP works fine. > > I also dislike overdesign with a passion. I'll believe we have to go to > TCP when I see it - and even if that happens, I think we should do the UDP > case first just to avoid having a monster ("start off simple, and evolve" > as opposed to "try to get it right the first time"). I've done this sort of "reliable UDP" on local networks before, it works just fine, no TCP is needed. TCP is a really well designed protocol, it handles an amazing range of problems gracefully. It's overkill for a lan remote gdb. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/