Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751390AbaFOOfK (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:35:10 -0400 Received: from 216-12-86-13.cv.mvl.ntelos.net ([216.12.86.13]:57750 "EHLO brightrain.aerifal.cx" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750774AbaFOOfH (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:35:07 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:35:00 -0400 From: Rich Felker To: Mikael Pettersson Cc: Andy Lutomirski , Russ Cox , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Ian Taylor , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, X86 ML Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym Message-ID: <20140615143500.GP179@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <21405.44257.742122.786960@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21405.44257.742122.786960@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 04:25:37PM +0200, Mikael Pettersson wrote: > Andy Lutomirski writes: > > The idea is to add AT_VDSO_FINDSYM pointing at __vdso_findsym. This > > implements __vdso_findsym. > > > > This would make it easier for runtimes that don't otherwise implement > > ELF loaders to use the vdso. > > > > Thoughts? > > I'm opposed to this based on the principle that the kernel should NOT > be a dumping ground for random code that user-space can and should > implement for itself. As long as the vdso is correctly formatted ELF, > then parsing it is easy, and the kernel should not care at all if or > how user-space accesses it. Arguably, it was a mistake for the kernel to expose a virtual ELF to begin with, and it should just have exposed a "lookup function by name" operation to begin with. Yes this can be done in userspace, but I see it more as a matter of "fixing a broken API design". Rich -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/