Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754212AbaFPHcq (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 03:32:46 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:10828 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753992AbaFPHco (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Jun 2014 03:32:44 -0400 Message-ID: <539E9D93.9040405@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:32:35 +0200 From: Michal Privoznik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Miller CC: jiri@resnulli.us, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] net-sysfs: Report link speed only when possible References: <20140606085733.GJ2984@minipsycho.orion> <20140606.125447.1665616708152334692.davem@davemloft.net> <539AC237.40402@redhat.com> <20140613.130350.1729507484821351177.davem@davemloft.net> In-Reply-To: <20140613.130350.1729507484821351177.davem@davemloft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 13.06.2014 22:03, David Miller wrote: > From: Michal Privoznik > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:19:51 +0200 > >> So if I were developing brand new application I could say: I'm >> dropping all this workaround code and have it clean and require say >> 3.16 kernel at least. > > Then your application wouldn't be usable on %99 of systems for a long > long time. > How come? The application is going to be usable for as long as library/kernel APIs won't change. Or until the time a new regression is introduced and fix is rejected. Speaking of which - long long time applications *are* broken now. This patch is combining the good from both worlds: old applications are fixed, new applications doesn't have to learn anything new. > I don't think this is the right tradeoff at all. > Neither is keeping things broken. Michal -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/