Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:40:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:40:59 -0500 Received: from s142-179-222-244.ab.hsia.telus.net ([142.179.222.244]:41009 "EHLO bluetooth.WNI.AD") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:40:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DDD0FCE.30600@WirelessNetworksInc.com> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:54:38 -0700 From: Herman Oosthuysen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021114 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux Subject: Re: spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2002 17:48:04.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[24DE2A60:01C29186] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3266 Lines: 76 The way I read it, the GPL is not the monster that most people think it is. In order to understand the GPL, you have to read all the acts that apply and that should start with the constitution of your country and state. You cannot read the GPL in isolation and think that you understand it. "Beware of a man of only one book", applies in this case. Using a header file in proprietary code, could be argued as reverse engineering to ensure interoperability with another program. This type of thing is described in the DMCA in the USA and in the copyright acts of other countries, which are all pretty much the same. Since the GPL depends on the various Copyright acts, I think that using a GPL header in proprietary code to ensure compatibility, is allowed. Another thing to bear in mind, is that 'fair use' is also allowed under the various copyright acts. Consequently it can be argued that you may use *some* GPL code in proprietary code and the larger the base of GPL code becomes, the larger the amount of fair use that will be allowed. Since the total GPL code base of the kernel is now many megabytes in size, fair use of some kilobytes of GPL code may very well be reasonable. Check this out with your own lawyers... Cheers, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Herman Oosthuysen B.Eng.(E), Member of IEEE Wireless Networks Inc. http://www.WirelessNetworksInc.com E-mail: Herman@WirelessNetworksInc.com Phone: 1.403.569-5687, Fax: 1.403.235-3965 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mielke wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:06:39AM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote: > >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, David McIlwraith wrote: >> >>> How should it? The compiler (specifically, the C preprocessor) includes >>> the code, thus it is not the AUTHOR violating the GPL. >> >> >> If the compiler includes a .h file, it happens because >> the programmer told it to do so, using a #include. > > > > I was recently re-reading the GPL and I came to the following conclusion: > > The GPL is only an issue if the software is *distributed* with GPL > software. Meaning -- it is not legal to distribute a linux kernel that > contains non-GPL code, however, it *is* legal for an administrator to > install linux, and then download a copy of the dynamically linked > module from a separate web site, under a different (incompatible) > license, and load it into the kernel. This new kernel image is a > 'derived work', however, as long as the new kernel image is not > distributed to 'the public', the GPL terms do *not* come into play. > > While I believe my understanding on this issue to be correct, I still > haven't answered the original question... is it legal to distribute a > non-GPL binary that used a GPL header file to be compiled? Is the > answer to this different depending on the amount of code that is > generated using the GPL header file as source (i.e. inlined > functions)? > > mark > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/