Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:27:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com ([148.87.2.201]:58278 "EHLO inet-mail1.oracle.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:27:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:34:24 -0800 From: Joel Becker To: Neil Brown , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFC - new raid superblock layout for md driver Message-ID: <20021121193424.GB770@nic1-pc.us.oracle.com> References: <15835.2798.613940.614361@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> <20021120160259.GW806@nic1-pc.us.oracle.com> <15836.7011.785444.979392@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> <20021121014625.GA14063@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021121014625.GA14063@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Burt-Line: Trees are cool. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1848 Lines: 45 On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:46:25PM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > I haven't yet played with the new dm code, but if it's like I expect it to > be, then I predict that in a few years, or maybe much less, md and dm will > be two parts of the same whole. The purpose of md is to map from a single Most LVMs support mirroring as an essential function. They don't usually support RAID5, leaving that to hardware. I certainly don't want to have to deal with two disparate systems to get my code up and running. I don't want to be limited in my mirroring options at the block device level. DM supports mirroring. It's a simple 1:2 map. Imagine this LVM volume layout, where volume 1 is data and mirrored, and volume 2 is some scratch space crossing both disks. [Disk 1] [Disk 2] [volume 1] [volume 1 copy] [ volume 2 ] If DM handles the mirroring, this works great. Disk 1 and disk 2 are handled either as the whole disk (sd[ab]) or one big partition on each disk (sd[ab]1), with DM handling the sizing and layout, even dynamically. If MD is handling this, then the disks have to be partitioned. sd[ab]1 contain the portions of md0, and sd[ab]2 are managed by DM. I can't resize the partitions on the fly, I can't break the mirror to add space to volume 2 quickly, etc. Joel -- "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein Joel Becker Senior Member of Technical Staff Oracle Corporation E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com Phone: (650) 506-8127 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/