Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757863AbaGCVYP (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:24:15 -0400 Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.74]:33768 "EHLO know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752872AbaGCVYO (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:24:14 -0400 X-Originating-IP: [81.106.150.188] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=KpbD2AmN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=DGj713NdaxKrsjjgQne7PA==:117 a=DGj713NdaxKrsjjgQne7PA==:17 a=J0QyKEt1u0cA:10 a=JT5DoUvwEhkA:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=NwNaNvtAQ0FkTAP6Vs4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:24:11 +0100 From: Ken Moffat To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Greg KH , Michael Marineau , Alan Stern , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER default Message-ID: <20140703212411.GB23074@milliways> References: <20140624183310.GA4955@kroah.com> <53A9D7AE.8000305@mit.edu> <20140624223509.GA21551@milliways> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20140624223509.GA21551@milliways> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:35:09PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:55:26PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On 06/24/2014 11:33 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:30:05AM -0700, Michael Marineau wrote: > > >> On Jun 24, 2014 11:23 AM, "Alan Stern" wrote: > > >>> [ snipping most of this ] > (i.) I got the option with 'make oldconfig' and, after reading the > help, made a decision. But, in the absence of other problems, and > if the help text is correct, it looks as if a kernel built after > accepting the default 'Y' here with recent userspace might grind to > a halt after "successfully" booting? That sounds slightly better > than "fails to boot", but only slightly. Maybe the problem needs > a lot of modules, or is it something like "it will hang for a minute, > then boot" ? > > (ii.) I understand that people continue to use ancient userspace, > and for that the 'Y' option is needed. Using ancient userspace is > a worthwhile thing for _somebody_ to try. But where is the line > between "you need to enable this" and "enabling this might be a > really bad idea" ? Maybe a specific version of udev ? > Now that I have managed to boot -rc3, with the default 'Y' on a recent system (linuxfromscratch from May), it appears to work fine. So, the text implies that bad things might happen, but so far I have not seen them. I'll stop caring. ĸen -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she was an old lady. Sometimes she went to bed as early as 6 a.m. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/