Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:02:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:02:25 -0500 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([64.81.58.33]:3025 "EHLO ishtar.tlinx.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:02:24 -0500 From: "LA Walsh" To: "'Andrew Walrond'" Cc: Subject: RE: A Kernel Configuration Tale of Woe Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:09:33 -0800 Message-ID: <000201c2972a$d9d523c0$1403a8c0@sc.tlinx.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <3DE36A10.4050506@walrond.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2098 Lines: 54 I thought arrogance was almost a prerequisite for being a Linux kernel programmer? Seriously, if one is working on a project for which you are the highest authority, then in your world, you are the center of your knowledge. Any other knowledge or view is somehow less important. Trivializing and marginalizing people with other views becomes standard practice. When you think you know so much, you can't even begin to take on another's view for the sake of understanding. Instead, all you can do is tear them down. To even begin to try to understand takes great courage to *risk* being wrong. If you are identified with your work, then any questioning about the 'standard way of doing things' is an immediate threat that is to be eliminated, expeditiously. The strength of reaction is a gauge to the arrogant person's level of fear. Some folks focus on the technology rather than identifying with it and are actually decent, reasonable people you can have a discussion with. Others are so full of themselves as to label dissenters as 'dangerous' people who shouldn't be allowed to share their opinions. One of the more ironic, self-evident remarks a senior kernel contributor made: "they don't let their ignorance get in the way of their opinions". Ain't it the truth. It's when we shut our minds that we become ignorant. -l > From: Andrew Walrond > The attitude of *some* people (even those considered senior) > in this and other mailing lists is down right shameful. > > Anybody who are genuinely trying to help, contribute or just get > involved all too often have their efforts publicly belittled. > > Polite criticism and guidance is always the better option and > encourages people to join in rather than frightening them off. > > Arrogance (Ar"ro*gance) (#), n. > [F., fr. L. arrogantia, fr. arrogans. See Arrogant.] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/