Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762424AbaGRWWf (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:22:35 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:44404 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759315AbaGRWWd (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:22:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:22:15 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Andrey Utkin Cc: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: How to automate checkpatch && get_maintainers && git send-email of commits range? Message-ID: <20140718222215.GF18775@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Andrey Utkin , kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 05:38:30PM +0300, Andrey Utkin wrote: > Is there script for automated checkpatch.pl && get_maintainers.pl && > git send-email for range of commits? I see none. Would it be welcome > to submit such one to kernel tree? Too much automation can be a really bad thing. You **really** want to sanity check the output of checkpatch.pl and get_maintainers.pl. Their output is not always correct, and some amount of human common sense is required. (Granted Nick Krause hasn't shown much in the way of common sense, but some human intervention --- assuming he is human and not an badly written, automated troll program --- is better than none.) The other thing is that I strongly recommend that people use git format-patch first, to make sure that what you will be blasting out to thousands of peoples' mail boxes is in fact sane. And then think very hard about which patches people need to see in order to be able to evaluate a patch. For example, if you have patch 1 out of a series which adds a new function, and then patches 2 through 1000 modify a thousand different drivers to use that new function, if you use an automated get_maintainers.pl script to send each patch to just the maintainer, then the device driver maintainer might not see patch #1 which is critical context to understanding the patch that you want to make to his driver. And then you will have several hundred very angry and annoyed developers wondering why you sent them patch 345/1000, with no other context, and wondering what the heck they are supposed to do with the email that you have just launched into their inbox. There's a reason why many developers cordially hate these scripts; it's too easy to misuse them, and unfortunately, there are too many Nick Krause like idiots out there who mindlessly use such scripts and cause pain to maintainers. The critical step is to force such idiots to stop and ***think*** and unfortunately, automation seems to encourage the opposite behaviour. Regards, - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/