Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:52:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:52:41 -0500 Received: from smtprelay6.dc2.adelphia.net ([64.8.50.38]:13961 "EHLO smtprelay6.dc2.adelphia.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: <007301c29cd3$95ad99d0$6a01a8c0@wa1hco> From: "jeff millar" To: "Frank van Maarseveen" , References: <200212041526.57501.shanehelms@eircom.net> <01c301c29bf5$201a9120$6a01a8c0@wa1hco> <20021206005510.A7411@iapetus.localdomain> Subject: Re: is KERNEL developement finished, yet ??? Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:00:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2507 Lines: 66 Harnessing energy (rockets, nukes, etc) is fundamentally an unlimited engineering opportunity. But kernel development is mostly an attempt to reduce overhead to zero. If a kernel runs 90% efficient now, then there's only 10% additional improvement possible. On the other hand application software is fundamentally unlimited. So if you want to work on reliability, portability, maintainability, and adaptation to new hardware then kernels make a good career. But if you want to break new ground, then it's either application space or hardware. jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank van Maarseveen" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: Re: is KERNEL developement finished, yet ??? > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:27:40PM -0500, jeff millar wrote: > > My opinion... > > > > Kernels are getting mature in the sense the there's not that many ways to do > > tasking and hardware interface. It no longer a game of invention but a game > > of polishing. > > no > > Everytime once in a while someone thinks that everything which can > be invented has been invented. Books like "The end of science". It's > pure hubris. > > Around 1930 it was proven that is was impossible to travel to the > moon. Then mankind discovered multi stage rockets and nuclear energy > (not even needed for that). > > It's incredible how narrow-minded established science sometimes is today > (and often has been past centuries). There is too much conservatism and > a general lack of imagination (though I must admit that no SF writer > could come up with something as bizarre as quantum mechanics, QED, > string theory and a few other things). > > Software and more specific kernel development has quite a short history > compared to all of that. So, let's be humble and accept that what we > do today will most likely be considered a trivial joke when the next > century arrives. > > You don't know what you do now know today. > > -- > Frank > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/