Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751998AbaJEXGh (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:06:37 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48]:36697 "EHLO mail-la0-f48.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751596AbaJEXGe (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:06:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 23:06:32 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sock puppets (Re: (Song) ** SystemD) From: Gregory Smith To: Joel Rees Cc: debian-user , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Believe whatever you want. No one seems to give a damn about good engineering practices, if they did there would be no debate at all. KISS is a very simple principal, systemd obviously violates it at the most basic level. All the arguments from the systemd crowd are appeals to authority, appeals to popularity (false popularity I might add), and emotional appeals. When that doesnt don't work, well... ban (application of authority) The systemd people are winning. You know why. Because bullshit walks. $$$$$(<-even linus likes those) Nothing's going to overcome that. Linux has suffered the equivalent of regulatory capture, and Linus himself is bought. On 10/5/14, Joel Rees wrote: > I don't know which side you're on. > > All I know is that with all the shock treatment from the noisiest part > of the supposedly anti-crowd and the arrogance, lies, petulance, > pretense, and other primadonna behavior that business-types seem to > like from the pro-crowd, good engineering practices are being thrown > overboard. > > Your poisoning the conversation does not help promote good > engineering, that should be obvious. So I tend to think you are a > sock-puppet of the pro-crowd, maybe even Sievers or Poettering posting > under an alias. > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Gregory Smith > wrote: >> Just because you disagree with something does not make it a troll. >> Just because someone continued to post to a mailing list which he >> was unrightly banned from (because systemd negativity is a no-no >> for some), does not mean the message is for trolling. >> >> Trying to suck up or find common ground with the systemd people >> will fail. >> >> Rambling Proposal pt 1 of 2. Unix-like Fork. "Indelible Linux/Crystalline >> Linux" >> youtu.be/N18rNxe3Z-o >> >> Rambling Proposal pt 2 of 2. Unix-like Fork. "Indelible Linux/Crystalline >> Linux" >> youtu.be/TG1uqwNzlnk >> >> >> On 10/5/14, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Chuck Ebbert >>> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 10:29:24 +0000 >>>> Gregory Smith wrote: >>>> [...] >>> >>> Chuck, Al, anyone else paying attention to "Gregory" or "Tom Collins" >>> or whatever he's calling himself -- I'll repeat what I posted to >>> debian-user, but this is quite apparently a sockpuppet, either >>> engaging in recreational trolling, or trying very hard to make it >>> impossible to discuss systemd with any semblance of rationally. >>> >>> It seems to be hard enough for the more avid of both the proponents >>> and opponents to be rational as it is, let's try not to get sucked >>> into this kind of baiting. (Speaking as one who got a little bit >>> sucked into it last week or so.) > > -- > Joel Rees > > Be careful where you see conspiracy. > Look first in your own heart, > and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/