Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751424AbaJSJAV (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:00:21 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:40262 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750906AbaJSJAS (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 05:00:18 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:00:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: Takashi Iwai To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Shuah Khan , Lars-Peter Clausen , akpm@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, crope@iki.fi, olebowle@gmx.com, dheitmueller@kernellabs.com, hverkuil@xs4all.nl, ramakrmu@cisco.com, sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, perex@perex.cz, prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com, tim.gardner@canonical.com, linux@eikelenboom.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v2 5/6] sound/usb: pcm changes to use media token api In-Reply-To: <20141018204958.567b252f.m.chehab@samsung.com> References: <543FB374.8020604@metafoo.de> <543FC3CD.8050805@osg.samsung.com> <543FD1EC.5010206@osg.samsung.com> <543FD892.6010209@osg.samsung.com> <543FDD51.9040404@osg.samsung.com> <20141018204958.567b252f.m.chehab@samsung.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/24.3 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:49:58 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Em Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:59:29 -0600 > Shuah Khan escreveu: > > > On 10/16/2014 08:48 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:39:14 -0600, > > > Shuah Khan wrote: > > >> > > >> On 10/16/2014 08:16 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > >>> At Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:10:52 -0600, > > >>> Shuah Khan wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 10/16/2014 08:01 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > >>>>> At Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:10:37 -0600, > > >>>>> Shuah Khan wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 10/16/2014 06:00 AM, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote: > > >>>>>>> On 10/14/2014 04:58 PM, Shuah Khan wrote: > > >>>>>>> [...] > > >>>>>>>> switch (cmd) { > > >>>>>>>> case SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_START: > > >>>>>>>> + err = media_get_audio_tkn(&subs->dev->dev); > > >>>>>>>> + if (err == -EBUSY) { > > >>>>>>>> + dev_info(&subs->dev->dev, "%s device is busy\n", > > >>>>>>>> + __func__); > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> In my opinion this should not dev_info() as this is out of band error > > >>>>>>> signaling and also as the potential to spam the log. The userspace > > >>>>>>> application is already properly notified by the return code. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Yes it has the potential to flood the dmesg especially with alsa, > > >>>>>> I will remove the dev_info(). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes. And, I think doing this in the trigger isn't the best. > > >>>>> Why not in open & close? > > >>>> > > >>>> My first cut of this change was in open and close. I saw pulseaudio > > >>>> application go into this loop trying to open the device. To avoid > > >>>> such problems, I went with trigger stat and stop. That made all the > > >>>> pulseaudio continues attempts to open problems go away. > > >>> > > >>> But now starting the stream gives the error, and PA would loop it > > >>> again, no? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>> Also, is this token restriction needed only for PCM? No mixer or > > >>>>> other controls? > > >>>> > > >>>> snd_pcm_ops are the only ones media drivers implement and use. So > > >>>> I don't think mixer is needed. If it is needed, it is not to hard > > >>>> to add for that case. > > >>> > > >>> Well, then I wonder what resource does actually conflict with > > >>> usb-audio and media drivers at all...? > > >>> > > >> > > >> audio for dvb/v4l apps gets disrupted when audio app starts. For > > >> example, dvb or v4l app tuned to a channel, and when an audio app > > >> starts. audio path needs protected to avoid conflicts between > > >> digital and analog applications as well. > > > > > > OK, then concentrating on only PCM is fine. > > > > > > But, I'm still not convinced about doing the token management in the > > > trigger. The reason -EBUSY doesn't work is that it's the very same > > > error code when a PCM device is blocked by other processes. And > > > -EAGAIN is interpreted by PCM core to -EBUSY for historical reasons. > > > > ah. ok your recommendation is to go with open and close. > > Mauro has some reservations with holding at open when I discussed > > my observations with pulseaudio when I was holding token in open > > instead of trigger start. Maybe he can chime with his concerns. > > I think his concern was breaking applications if token is held in > > open(). > > Yes. My concern is that PA has weird behaviors, and it tries to open and > keep opened all audio devices. PA usually closes the PCM devices when unused. If it doesn't, it must be a bug. Takashi -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/