Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933087AbaJUUEF (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:04:05 -0400 Received: from forward4l.mail.yandex.net ([84.201.143.137]:48663 "EHLO forward4l.mail.yandex.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932569AbaJUUED (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:04:03 -0400 X-Yandex-Uniq: 37833c59-7560-4654-9bcb-4f399f2d4a55 Authentication-Results: smtp4m.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <5446BC2D.1030909@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 00:03:57 +0400 From: Kirill Tkhai Reply-To: tkhai@yandex.ru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oleg Nesterov , Peter Zijlstra CC: Kirill Tkhai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , Vladimir Davydov Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] sched/numa: fix unsafe get_task_struct() in task_numa_assign() References: <1413800145.19914.23.camel@tkhai> <20141020144757.GA10939@redhat.com> <20141020165614.GA16373@redhat.com> <20141020182748.GA20424@redhat.com> <54456E26.2000103@yandex.ru> <20141020205006.GA2500@redhat.com> <20141021094558.GQ23531@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20141021190335.GA12851@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20141021190335.GA12851@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 21.10.2014 23:03, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > On 10/21, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:50:06PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote: >>> Let me explain what I personally dislike in v3: >>> >>> - I think that we do not have enough reasons for >>> SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU. This is the serious change. >> >> What exactly would the downsides be? SDBR has very limited space >> overhead iirc. > > Yes, SDBR is nice (and it could probably have more users), but my > concern is not overhead. Please see below. > >>> - Again, perhaps we should start we a simple and stupid fix. >>> We can do get_task_struct() under rq->lock or, if nothing >>> else, just >>> >>> raw_spin_lock_irq(&rq->lock); >>> cur = rq->curr; >>> if (is_idle_task(cur) || (cur->flags & PF_EXITING)) >>> cur = NULL; >>> raw_spin_unlock_irq(&rq->lock); >> >> I think I agree with you, this is the simple safe option and is >> something we can easily backport. After that we can add creative bits on >> top. > > Agreed. > > Kirill, could you please make a patch? Yeah, I'll send it tomorrow. >> I think I prefer the SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU thing over the probe_kernel >> thing > > I won't really insist, but let me try to explain why I dislike it in > this particular case. > > - It is not clear who else (except task_numa_compare) will need it. > And it looks at bit strange to make task_struct SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU > just to read a word in task_numa_compare(). > > - In some sense, the usage of SDBR looks simply "wrong" in this case. > IOW, I agree that probe_kernel_read() is ugly, but in this case > SDBR acts exactly the same way as probe_kernel_read(). > > SDBR does not make the object rcu-safe, it only protects the object > type plus ensures that this memory can't go away. It was designed > for the case when you read the stable members initialized in ctor > (usually a lock) and verify/lock the object. > > But in this case we can not detect that the object is still alive > without the additional trick, so when you read ->sighand or ->flags, > the fact that this memory is still "struct task_struct" doesn't help > and doesn't matter at all. Only the subsequent "task == rq->curr" > check proves that yes, this is task_struct. > > OTOH, (afaics) we only need probe_kernel_read() if CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB. > And in fact I think that "read the valid but potentially freed kernel > pointer" deserves another helper, it can have more users. For example, > please look at get_freepointer_safe(). > > What if we add get_kernel(x, ptr) macro to factor out the IS_ENABLED() > of ifdef hack? Or inline function... This way the new xxx() helper we > discussed won't look that bad. > > But again, I agree that this subjective, I won't really argue. So this patch we fix task_numa_compare(). We need remember to fix remaining later: $ git grep ACCESS_ONCE kernel/sched/ | grep "\->curr" kernel/sched/deadline.c: curr = ACCESS_ONCE(rq->curr); /* kernel/sched/fair.c: cur = ACCESS_ONCE(dst_rq->curr); kernel/sched/fair.c: tsk = ACCESS_ONCE(cpu_rq(cpu)->curr); kernel/sched/rt.c: curr = ACCESS_ONCE(rq->curr); /* unlocked Kirill -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/