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To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
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Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> writes:

> On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 19:16, James Simmons wrote:
> > 
> > > > I can take care of radeon's. Did you already used my updated version
> > > > from the PPC tree ?
> > >
> > > Will the Radeon fbdev driver work with all Radeons (for instance a
> > > Radeon 9700 Pro)?
> > 
> > Yes I saw support for this card :-)
> 
> Well, I'm not sure it quite works yet. Maybe unaccelerated, but anyway,
> my version of radeonfb for 2.5 isn't accelerated yet anyway. I'll work
> on that (or Ani will) now that the API is stable enough.

How well does this driver work if you don't have a firmware
driver initialize the card? aka a pci option ROM.

I am interested because with LinuxBIOS it is still a pain to run
PCI option roms, and I don't necessarily even have then if it a
motherboard with video.  There are some embedded/non-x86 platforms
with similar issues.  

My primary interest is in the cheap ATI Rage XL chip that is on many
server board. PCI Vendor/device  id 1002:4752 (rev 27) from lspci.

If nothing else if some one could point me to some resources on
how to get the appropriate documentation from the video chipset
manufacturers I would be happy.

But I did want to at least point that running a system with out bios
initialized video was certainly among the cases that are used.

Eric
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