Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754518AbaJXH3F (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 03:29:05 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:38122 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753499AbaJXH3D (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 03:29:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:26:07 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Lai Jiangshan Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, riel@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de, oleg@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com, minchan@kernel.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, dave@stgolabs.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/6] SRCU free VMAs Message-ID: <20141024072607.GT21513@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20141020215633.717315139@infradead.org> <20141020222841.419869904@infradead.org> <5448D515.90006@cn.fujitsu.com> <20141023110346.GP21513@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <5449C8A6.9080403@cn.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5449C8A6.9080403@cn.fujitsu.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22.1 (2013-10-16) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote: > On 10/23/2014 07:03 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 06:14:45PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> +struct vm_area_struct *find_vma_srcu(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr) > >>> +{ > >>> + struct vm_area_struct *vma; > >>> + unsigned int seq; > >>> + > >>> + WARN_ON_ONCE(!srcu_read_lock_held(&vma_srcu)); > >>> + > >>> + do { > >>> + seq = read_seqbegin(&mm->mm_seq); > >>> + vma = __find_vma(mm, addr); > >> > >> will the __find_vma() loops for ever due to the rotations in the RBtree? > > > > No, a rotation takes a tree and generates a tree, furthermore the > > rotation has a fairly strict fwd progress guarantee seeing how its now > > done with preemption disabled. > > I can't get the magic. > > __find_vma is visiting vma_a, > vma_a is rotated to near the top due to multiple updates to the mm. > __find_vma is visiting down to near the bottom, vma_b. > now vma_b is rotated up to near the top again. > __find_vma is visiting down to near the bottom, vma_c. > now vma_c is rotated up to near the top again. > > ... Why would there be that much rotations? Is this a scenario where someone is endlessly changing the tree? If you stop updating the tree, the traversal will finish. This is no different to the reader starvation already present with seqlocks. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/