Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752088AbaJ0QWZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:22:25 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:44435 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752003AbaJ0QWX (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:22:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:22:20 +0000 From: Al Viro To: Bastien Nocera Cc: Andy Lutomirski , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: A desktop environment[1] kernel wishlist Message-ID: <20141027162220.GV7996@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <1413881397.30379.7.camel@hadess.net> <5446B3CC.1080904@amacapital.net> <1414418126.30379.47.camel@hadess.net> <1414424723.30379.59.camel@hadess.net> <1414426146.30379.62.camel@hadess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1414426146.30379.62.camel@hadess.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 05:09:06PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > By having a well-known protocol and defined semantics on top of that > > > communication channel. I could try and re-explain why kdbus is needed, > > > but I wouldn't do as good a job as the people working on it, so best to > > > refer to the individual threads about kdbus on this list. > > > > > > > I didn't do a good job asking the question, then. > > > > What's wrong with fds in the context of communicating with a > > container? What does kdbus do container-wise that helps? > > Nothing's wrong with using fd's. They're just a very poor API. For a proof by assertion it's too transparent, for any other kind of explanation - far too short on details... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/